Talk:Zac Efron

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2014
Please change: "Efron sought treatment in early 2013 after struggling with alcoholism. He has been sober for six months as of December 2013."

To: "Efron sought treatment in early 2013 after struggling with alcoholism. Although it was widely reported in September 2013 by several media outlets that he had also received treatment for an addiction to cocaine. He has been sober for six months as of December 2013."

Sources: http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/17/zac-efron-rehab-cocaine-coke-seth-rogen-molly/ http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/19/zac-efron-two-rehab-stints-cocaine-molly-addiction-seth-rogen-outpatient/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2432257/Zac-Efron-snorted-cocaine-dabbled-MDMA-partied-days-sleeping.html http://perezhilton.com/2013-09-18-zac-efron-cocaine-addiction-source-says-control-freak-worst-nightmare-keeping-it-together http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20739381,00.html


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please see WEASEL. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 18:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Photo
Can you change the initial photo of Zac to something from the oscars red carpet from last week??? Zac's That Awkward Moment did well at box office despite bad reviews. He endorsed Penshoppe and John John denims in 2012. Bestzacfan (talk) 03:19, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Because of Wikipedia's Non-free content policy, we need to have a photo that we can freely use under copyright laws. It's hard to find very specific photos such as what you're asking for sometimes.  We have to rely on what others are willing to allow us to use.  If you can find a phot and contact the photographer/rights holder of that photo, they can then contact Wikimedia and grant permission for us to use it.  only (talk) 03:35, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

can't wikimedia contact them if i give you a photo? Bestzacfan (talk) 03:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

At various points, Efron's potential projects included the title role in the live-action adaptation of the Jonny Quest cartoons,[44] This Is Where I Leave You, an adaptation of Jonathan Tropper's comic novel,[45] Einstein Theory,[46] an adaptation of Fire, by Image Comics, and the American remake of Swedish crime film Easy Money.[47][4 Please remove this part. It seems kinda insulting as if he had had the roles and then lost them. Obviously these are not gonna happen. So what's the point in keeping them? Also can you add more details of his other films. How his Lorax did well at bo and also That Awkward Moment too despite bad reviews. Also Neighbors currently has 100% rating on rotten tomatoes. Can't you add them too?? Please.Mandarin205 (talk) 00:39, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Doubts
Hello, I wonder if Zac is bisexual, as there are several website that confirms this.--Jorge Horan (talk) 06:14, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * He isn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.119.194.100 (talk) 23:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

fix filmography under wrong section
Can someone please edit the filmography and put Robot Chicken DC Comics Special II: Villains in Paradise under Television and not Films? Under Films, the year should be 2014, the title should be Robot Chicken, the role should be Superboy, and the episode should be Robot Chicken DC Comics Special II: Villains in Paradise. The episode should link back to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Chicken_DC_Comics_Special_2:_Villains_in_Paradise The Robot Chicken titles under 2009 and 2010 should link back to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Chicken — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.175.43.33 (talk) 23:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

WHY HAS NOBODY FIXED THIS YET?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I'M PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I COULD UPDATE THIS PAGE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND CAN SOMEONE ADD THE MOVIE WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS UNDER FILMOGRAPHY?????????????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:80BD:1860:592:6A34:6EC8:AB0 (talk) 06:47, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

and can someone please add Punk'd under television? he was in 2 episodes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:80BD:1860:592:6A34:6EC8:AB0 (talk) 06:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2014
I'd don't know how to use wikipedia well, but it's been announced that Zac Efron is starting in a new movie called "We Are Your Friends," which will be released in 2015.

Zalter97 (talk) 20:41, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. In other words, where has this been announced?  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

If you've been looking online you would know. We've been getting new set pictures almost every day. https://twitter.com/ZacEfron/status/494957145105104896 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:80BD:1860:592:6A34:6EC8:AB0 (talk) 06:51, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2014
I've noticed that neither of those incidents which occurred in the past year are included in Zac Efron's Personal Life section of his Wikipedia biography. This is supposed to be a factual article not an advertisement so why are neither of those prominent life events included, both of which occurred after his stints in rehab and were widely reported to be related to drugs? His incident in Skid Row should be stated here as a legal issue. TMZ obtained legal reports of the incident including a man Efron referred to as his "bodyguard" having a criminal record for drug dealing.

Sources:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/zac-efron-broke-jaw-on-home-fountain-lost-10-12-pounds-drinking-liquid-foods-for-six-weeks-2014311

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2514084/Zac-Efron-broke-jaw-night-partying-claims-new-report.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/27/local/la-me-ln-zac-efron-altercation-homeless-la-20140327

http://pagesix.com/2014/03/28/zac-efrons-friends-fear-hes-back-on-drugs-after-skid-row-brawl/

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/27/zac-efron-attack-bodyguard-drugs/

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/27/zac-efron-fight-skid-row-drugs/

Dauntlessone (talk) 11:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Rumor and speculation aren't included in articles, especially when it's negative and involves a living person. Stickee (talk) 02:23, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not (just) rumor and speculation. Both incidents are properly sourced:
 * The mutual combat incident: Los Angeles Times, a reliable source, says: "Actor Zac Efron got into an altercation with at least one homeless person [...] police officials confirmed." (emphasis mine) Also usable might be Time: "Police say they saw Efron and his bodyguard “in a full-blown melee with at least 3 other people,” according to TMZ. [...] Law enforcement officials told TMZ that nobody was arrested because they viewed it as “mutual combat"." (again, emphasis mine) How reliable a source is depends on context. Together, those two sources should be sufficient for the incident at Skid Row.
 * When it comes to him braking his jaw in an unrelated incident, that too has enough reliable sources. How it happened is mostly speculation - what Efron claims; WP:PRIMARY - but that it happened is reliably sourced. Us Weekly is usable here, and even MailOnline. E! Online is referenced by CNN, Boston.com, USA Today and Daily News. TMZ is being referenced by Fox News. WENN is being referenced by the San Francisco Chronicle.
 * In my opinion, both incidents are also notable and should be mentioned in the article. Clearly a lot of reliable sources - CNN, USA Today, and so on - agree that it's noteworthy. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 07:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. I see a lot of discussion going on here, when there is a consensus, I'm sure someone will make that change.  No need for this request template to be open. —   21:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There was not "a lot of discussion", there was one editor (Stickee) who claimed the incidents would be "rumor and speculation". Rumor is a statement or claim of questionable accuracy, from no known reliable source, usually spread by word of mouth, and speculation is making an inference based on inconclusive evidence. Both incidents are (very) reliably sourced. After I pointed this out, all you did is hit and run; why did you even touch this thread? I'm reopening the request. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 06:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * ❌ - The reply to your last request asked you to obtain consensus, but you have not even tried to do that, let alone achieved it - Arjayay (talk) 08:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If you reread my response, you'll see that I disagree with Technical 13's premise that there is "a lot of discussion". Regardless of whether Stickee's concerns were legitimate or not, they have been addressed. You and Technical 13 have added absolutely nothing to this discussion. All you have done is closed the request with a statement that consensus would be necessary. What happened in this thread is, in this order: an editor makes a request, a second editor thinks the material is "rumor and speculation", a third editor gives more than enough sources that show the incidents are facts and not rumor and speculation. Now suddenly you want consensus. What are you talking about? Consensus that the incidents are facts? Are you truly claiming that when Los Angeles Times writes that police officials confirmed something, that the newspaper is lying? And that 0 of the resources about Efron's jaw incident are reliable? Can you try to do a little bit more than just close a request and write that some kind of consensus is still required? Any effort at all? I'm reopening this request. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 09:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * See also WP:PUBLICFIGURE: "In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article – even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out." --82.136.210.153 (talk) 10:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The Hollywood Reporter mentions both: "Efron has had his travails well documented: First, he entered rehab for an addiction to alcohol and drugs last spring; then he suffered the indignity of having his jaw wired shut following a fall in his Los Feliz home, when he skidded by an indoor fountain; and finally came the March incident when his car clunked to a halt in a dubious part of town, after which Efron grappled with a homeless man." --82.136.210.153 (talk) 15:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Regardless if you agree with my assertion that there was some discussion here or not, there is still no consensus for this change.  Please establish one before reopening this request. Thank you. —   16:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * So what you are saying is that, because Stickee wrote the incidents are rumor and speculation, which has repeatedly been proven to be untrue with very reliable sources, I now nevertheless have to post on Stickee's Talk page to invite Stickee here to discuss whether this is still rumor and speculation? --82.136.210.153 (talk) 16:43, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

What's happening with this? Dauntlessone (talk) 22:51, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2015
Still unsure why no edits have been made regarding the broken jaw and Skid Row altercation? Other notable people have similar incidents mentioned in their Wikipedia pages. It may not be desirable but its factual and OCCURED as both incidents were reported by several reputable media outlets, and one involved law enforcement (Skid Row fight) and the other Zac confessed to himself on Jimmy Kimmel (broken jaw). In a sense it is less accurate to omit the information as it gives a false image of the celebrity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dauntlessone (talk • contribs) 00:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Inomyabcs (talk) 01:38, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Please change >>> Efron sought treatment in early 2013 after struggling with alcoholism and substance abuse. He has been sober since June 2013.

to

Efron sought treatment in early 2013 after struggling with alcoholism and substance abuse. He has been sober since June 2013. In November 2013, Efron had to have his jaw wired shut after breaking it in a fall at home. In March 2014, Efron engaged in a fight with a homeless man in Skid Row. Law enforcement officials did not make any arrests because they viewed it as mutual combat.
 * Yes check.svg Done. Thank you, this helped make the change quick and painless. Inomyabcs (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2015
I would like to edit the filmography of Zac Efron.

75.117.97.61 (talk) 03:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2016
Please insert and edit additional information into the "Personal Life" section.

Specifically: "Efron has been in a relationship with model and entrepreneur Sami Miró since September 2014.[27]".

The new information: In April 2016, Efron and Miró split up after less than two years of dating, due to scheduling conflicts and long distance.

References: http://perezhilton.com/2016-04-26-zac-efron-sami-miro-breakup-details/?from=post http://perezhilton.com/2016-05-02-zac-efron-talks-happiness-after-split-from-sami-miro/?from=post

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2016
Please change Efron has been in a relationship with model and entrepreneur Sami Miró since September 2014. to something along the lines of ''Efron began a romantic relationship with model and entrepeneur Sami Miró in September 2014. The couple split in April 2016.''

Sami Miro and Zac Efron split in April of 2016. Multiple sources have confirmed this, and since the news of the split Efron has also opened up about being single and recent experiences with Tinder.

69.199.56.75 (talk) 18:13, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2017
he Zac Efron Snapchat name or Zac Efron Snapchat username is @zacefron87.Zac Efron is a well-known and wonderful actor TV on-screen character on Snapchat. Include Zac Snapchat to see today’s amazing story, or secondary with his official record on some other informal institute by clicking one of the snapchat usernames underneath. MNS92 (talk) 17:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per WP:ELPEREN. — nihlus kryik   ( talk ) 17:59, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2017
change picture S.fafa12 (talk) 21:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2018
2014-Present refers to him being linked to Jon Bass who co-starred in Baywatch. However the "link" for Jon Bass is an English football player and not the American actor. 86.153.157.164 (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thanks for pointing out this mislink. RudolfRed (talk) 23:38, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Discography
I have simplified the discography of Efron, since he is not a singer, so it is not relevant to make this section so extensive with information that is already in their respective articles. But Mn1548 is opposed to this, since according to he this it is important. I would like to know what other users think about it, with regard to this. Should I leave it like this, or revert my edition?, we have been talking about in my talk page. I hope more participation from the community.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  16:53, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion
True Zac Efron doesn't have a solid career as a singer because he is mainly and actor. However he has still got songs credit to his name therefore this should be displayed on his page as it is true information which should be included on an encyclopedia. In addition, if anything, the songs should be left on and not the soundtrack albums as the songs are credited to him and the albums are not. Also, seen as Zac Efron has done mostly musicals the discography will only strengthen his career as an actor. Mn1548 (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That can be mentioned, but the numbers in the positions seems totally irrelevant, because that is for the soundtrack and already each album has its respective article. And as I can see, the songs that you want to mention are already in the articles of the soundtrack. He is not a singer, is only part of his performance, nowadays anyone can sing, for example, like Cameron Boyce.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  17:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Adding the chart positions and certifications show how well the songs did comercially and is present in most other discographies on Wikipedia so I think should be on this one as well, and given the fact that most of these songs don't have their own pages gives reason to keep it on due to the fact that pages for albums only display charts positions and certifications for the album and not the songs in them. Also saying that the songs are only part of his performance is not true as each song had its own studio recording like professional singers do (You can tell this by listening to the song in the film and on the soundtrack; most of the time they are different even if the difference is only slight). Finally, saying anyone can sing is an irrelevant point. I can sing, doesn't mean I'm any good at it unlike Zac Efron who's must be as he's had studio recorded top 20 Platinum certified songs. Mn1548 (talk) 19:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In fact, anyone can sing or how would you explain this?, And as I said before, those songs were not written by Efron. And as I said earlier, those songs were not written by Efron. There is no need to expand a discography section. Taking into account that the recognitions of the albums go to the film, and the soundtrack and the cast in general. Is there a song by Zac, where I sang as a soloist and got many recognitions? What I sang in a movie does not deserve that the section expands. The songs he sang are in the respective article of the soundtrack, which already exists.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  20:20, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are songs by Zac Efron, if you had a look at the table before it was deleted you would have seen this - for example "Rewrite the Stars" by Zac Efron and Zendaya. In regards to writing the songs himself, quite a lot of artists have songs wrote for them. If you don't write your own songs, it doesn't mean you don't get credit for performing them. Regardless the fact that the information is on the main page doesn't justify the fact that it can't apper on Zac Efron's page with the information with respect to Zac Efron because that's what a discography is! If your points were valid then you wouldn't see discographies on artists' pages. It doesn't matter whether his singing is his primary method of performance or secondary, it's still valid information and should be on the page. Saying he is an actor by trade and not a singer is a reason to disregard his discography is rubbish because all your saying there is that people can only be famous for one thing which is wrong. David Beckham for example has a filmography, small no less, but is still there. You can't ignore this because his primary career is in football. It's the same with Zac Efron, you can't ignore is singing performances because he's primarily an actor! Mn1548 (talk) 16:05, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Well "Rewrite the Stars" is in The Greatest Showman: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. So why do you want to add it again? In fact in that same article shown are your Peak chart positions. So why do you want to expand Zac Efron's discography more? With mentioning the soundtracks in which he appears accredited is enough.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  17:01, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I want to add those songs on his discography because they are credited to him. You don't see other discographies only showing albums or missing songs of which that artist has been credited with. Every artists page I've seen has all charted and certified songs on their discography so why should Zac Efron be any different. Any true and valid information should be on Wikipedia because it is an encyclopedia, that is the whole underling message I am trying to put across. Mn1548 (talk) 17:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * He is an actor, not a singer, so that section can not be expanded with unnecessary data.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  18:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * But the fact is he has sung with at least 15 songs to his name, and how is this data unnecessary? It is valid information which strengthens his career as a performer. It is not up to you to decide whether this information is necessary or not! And if it is the fact that it should be on the page, please show me the page on Wikipedia Policy which says I can't add a discography section to the page of an actor! Mn1548 (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * But the albums he has collaborated on are already in the discography section. I do not know what else you want to add.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  20:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have already said, the stuff that was already there. Chart Positions and Certifications for the soundtrack albums and his songs that he sung on them. There is no reason why this information can't be displayed. Mn1548 (talk) 05:29, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * He is not a singer, and all that you want to add are credits that go through the albums not for him.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  12:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As I've already said, the fact that he's not a singer doesn't justify not included a discography of his work on his page. And regards to the credits the respective songs are credited to Zac Efron and not the cast. I could show this for all the soundtracks but I think this makes my point. Mn1548 (talk) 16:10, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Here I have left this, so that other users can also decide what is best for the article.-- Philip J Fry   Talk  16:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, I think that's probably best seen as we can't agree. Mn1548 (talk) 16:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Split Proposal
Can we please split the discography section into its own article to include the information in the above section seen as an inconclusive discussion occured regarding this information's place of the main page. As singing is a significant part of Efron's career the information should be included. Mn1548 (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I've just approved the new article. Zac_Efron_discography Legacypac (talk) 19:29, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thankyou

Age
Zac’s age needs to be changed to 31. Lisacrawshaw66 (talk) 14:24, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Separate Wiki about Zac Efron in Film and Television
I believe that the filmography section on this page is quite unreadable It is too large to exist just as a section of the page. I think it would be better if we split it from the original page and just have a list of the big films and shows he has been in. Γιαννης Παπαδογκονας (talk) 12:40, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Support split to Zac Efron filmography. Don't create it yet until there's consensus, also there is a Draft:Zac Efron filmography in progress. The main page can then just list the big films, not the shows. Shows are never listed like that if a filmography section is created, see Ashley Tisdale.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:22, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. My plan is this:
 * 1) Move all awards information from the filmography table to the "Awards and nominations" section.
 * 2) Move the filmography to a separate list (as proposed).
 * 3) Merge his discography with his filmography (which is currently undergoing an AfD discussion).
 * 4) Rename new list List of Zac Efron performances.
 * 5) Take to WP:FL. :-)
 * I thoroughly thank for the guidance they've supplied me. — Miss Sarita 17:47, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would keep discography separated. That should be for his audio recordings and all his "featured" and "with" collaborations. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There is an ongoing AfD discussion regarding his discography with some pretty logical explanations as to why it shouldn't exist as a separate list (much of the information within the list is redundant as Efron has only performed musical acts as part of an ensemble in musical films). I will definitely wait to see what the consensus is on that one before moving forward, but the model is to follow featured lists such as List of Amy Adams performances and List of Anne Hathaway performances. — Miss Sarita 18:28, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey, . Any word on the future of a possible split? Looks like the outcome for Efron's discography list was to have it redirect back to Efron's main page. Could this have an affect on the outcome of the split proposal? — Miss Sarita 04:31, 29 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose – The current Filmography is not nearly long enough to justify a separate article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:54, 26 January 2019 (UTC)